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Daily Dose: Firefox Drops Version Numbers

08.16.2011
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Today, Mozilla's community coordinator Asa Dotzler announced that future Firefox users will not be shown their browser's version number. Despite complaints and outcry from the community, Mozilla believes that this motion only gets rid of a feature that users do not care about. Instead of seeing a version number, Firefox will present a message that reads "You are running the latest version."  Dave Garrett, a Firefox Add-On developer, commented

"Even my mother knows this is where you look up what version of a program you're using. You're going up against established UX that spans much time and across OSes".


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Sebastian Mueller replied on Wed, 2011/08/17 - 3:09am

Re Firefox dropping version number display:

This would mean removing the last "easy" reliable way of knowing whether Firefox is up to date. At least on Windows 7 (and Vista), I have yet to see a firefox installation that 

a) Automatically updates itself

or

b) at least tells me that it's up to date or not up to date (some versions ago this worked for the very first time, it detected that it was out of date, in the current version even this is broken)

and

c) after it has detected that an update could be downloaded and the update was applied it (in versions where this worked at least), it will not constantly offer the option to install that update that has just been downloaded (even if the current version is a lot newer than the update that had been downloaded) - of course accepting the option of applying the update does not work at all but just restarts the browser.

 Note that most of the above will only happen in the "rare" case where you are not running with administrator rights. As I said, since I guess firefox 3.0 everything related to autoupdate on Windows is broken.

Dear Firefox developers (and Thunderbird developers for which all of the above applies as well): Feel free to remove the version number display, but *first* make auto update actually work. 

 

Sorry for the rant but I find the current situation ridiculous for a software that claims be more secure than others however does not have the ability to update automatically to the most recent and most secure versions. The last time I checked the PCs of my coworkers only one out of ten PCs had an up to date Firefox version, some of the installations where more than 10 security releases behind! Also if you know of a way to make autoupdate or at least notification work on Windows, please post here.

Dominique De Vito replied on Wed, 2011/08/17 - 4:23am

The current situation (fast increase of the major digit of the version numbers) was ridiculous.

The next proposal (dropping the version numbers) is also ridiculous: version numbers are so pervasive that they are user-friendly and help to know when you are up-to-date even if you are beyond a proxy, or not connected.

So, do we need to wait for yet another Mozilla proposal ?

 

Chris Arthur replied on Wed, 2011/08/17 - 8:08am

Firefox not showing the version number is a guarantee that no business will ever use it again because it becomes a tech support nightmare. "Hey that latest version 3 versions ago had a flaw and you tell whether or not they have that one by consulting with the forest gods and sending an email to the Oracle at Delphi." Do they think about this stuff or just do what they suppose is cool?

John Waterwood replied on Thu, 2011/08/18 - 3:01am in response to: Chris Arthur

Maybe they are following Apple's lead here: just impress, awe & shock by suddenly removing some often used thing?

Jose Jeria replied on Thu, 2011/08/18 - 3:39am in response to: Chris Arthur

You will still be able to see the version number by navigating to "Troubleshoot information" in the Help menu.

Max Katz replied on Wed, 2011/08/17 - 1:42pm

Re: Google Moves Android App Inventor

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